THE TRINITY HERESY: THE TRINITY HERESY

It is almost impossible to wrap one’s head around how something so pervasive, so widely accepted, most of the time without doubt or second thought can be so obviously damnable as the doctrine of the trinity that it can only be 2Thess 2:11”mocking” the wicked to their face.(1Kings 22:19-35…… YES JESUS DID SPECIFICALLY CLAIM TO BE GOD …..The problem is that even most Christians either do not know or do not care what GOD said about HIMSELF..

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http://www.globethics.net/gtl/10920799 THE TRINITY HERESY

HERE ARE JUST A FEW SNIPPETS FROM THE ~150PG BOOK

HOW MANY GODS IS THERE FOR "THE ONE GOD" TO PRAY TOO?!?

PART 4 & 5 WHO WAS JESUS/GOD PRAYING TO and what about the voice at his baptism?.............The real question should be ... How does having multiple different persons keep this one God/being/entity from praying to himself?! The Trinitarians want to have their cake and eat it too as the saying goes. On the one hand they need to say they only worship one indivisible God being/ entity but on the other hand they feel the need for some reason to keep Jesus or God from praying and talking to himself by dividing him up into different persons!?! It never occurs to them that that since there is only one God to pray too and Jesus is that God come in the flesh that he would need to talk to himself as to show us how to live, suffer, pray and die for our (and the flesh) benefit not his!?! ......There is only one God to pray too so if God is going to personally (in the flesh) show us how to pray to God, then he would need to do so by praying to himself. There is perfectly good coherent reasons for the one God to be praying to the one God (praying to himself).

But, oh no, Trinitarians feel that if God talked to himself then that would be stupid at best and at worst make God schizophrenic or some other mental illness they fear. No sir, they will have none of it, they are on a “mission from god”. They are going to go out and save God from himself and any schizoid/mental illnesses that might “bedevil” God himself. What is even more ridiculous is that their solution to keep God from talking to himself (some mental illness they feel) is to evoke multiple person(s)-ality (deny it is a) disorder and insert it onto God’s “being” (call it one “entity”/ “The Godhead”) instead!?! Man is made in the image of God and when I see a man with multiple different personalities, in the way Trinitarians desperately need their god to be, we call it a disorder (demon possession to be more exact) not divine!?! .......................If the One God (in heaven who is a SPIRIT) wanted to validate that it is in fact himself (on the earth in human flesh) that has come in the flesh on the earth, then a voice out of heaven telling everyone that is Himself is perfectly consistent with a coherent agenda and methodology. The voice and witness to men does not come for God’s own sake but for man’s reassurance. (John 12:30 Jesus answered and said, THIS VOICE CAME NOT BECAUSE OF ME, BUT FOR YOUR SAKES) The one person God (who is omnipresent) in heaven as well as on the earth (at the same time) wanted everyone to know that it was indeed HIMSELF "in the flesh" Suddenly we can see that the only things “bedeviled” with “many demons” (and mental imperfections) are the Trinitarian’s logic and mindset itself

Pg 78…….So while Trinitarians are quick to complain that God was not talking to himself at Christ baptism or in Gen “let us” they ignore the logical demands of their own theology! If Jesus is the ONE GOD in flesh and the Father is the SAME ONE GOD in heaven then Trinitarianism demands THE ONE GOD is talking to HIMSELF the same “being”! Claiming that God is multiple different persons as the reason for why God is not talking to himself (because God is three different “selfs”) only demonstrates that what they really worship is in fact not a ONE GOD who talks to himself but three different god “selfs”/ and they all talk to each other! When they speak about who God was talking and praying to, they are quick to say “the other person, NOT HIMSELF!” But if you ask them how many gods do they pray to then they will say “ONLY ONE”!?! They expect you to believe that those three different persons are THE ONE GOD-BEING” which is like calling three different cars “THE ONE VEHICLE” (they are text book examples of prov 26:12) This of course is all nonsense and just polytheism with different wrapping paper and a bow on top. (remember this is not one of those unscrupulous pyramid schemes this is a trapezoid with a solid foundation!?!) If Jesus is not the same ONE GOD that the father is then no amount of denials can overcome the fact that Trinitarians would still be talking and worshiping to different (and in this case) “ONE GODS”. If however, Jesus/father are the same ONE GOD then Trinitarianism cannot escape the fact that “THE ONE GOD” would still have to pray and or talk to HIMSELF at some point. Denials only solidify the fact that they do pray and or worship to three different gods; three different god “selfs” and the only place you can find a “being” that is three different persons is in the “logic” and heads of fools who think they worship one God only that does not talk to himself. ………… A tree is known by its fruit...In the beginning God said you will die; Satan came along and stated you will be more "wise".....God and His Children said God is one; Satan's children say no three or triune God is more "wise"...You are of your father the devil. Those who believe in God in three persons are noting but polytheist who insist and “confess” that they are true monotheist....like liars and thieves who insist and “confess” they are not lying and stealing...!?! All liars will have their part in the lake of fire. The fact you claim to be or not to be something does not make it true. You cannot believe in three persons of God if you believe in one God. Three different persons is by definition plurality of beings (godS not God) simply laying claim to it is "beyond comprehension" to explain or understand, but "don't worry we “confess” that we are monotheist and are not polytheist" is in fact just delusional.

Here is a diagram that graphically depicts how ONE PERSON who is God can Be everywhere at the same time... If a omnipresent God speaks from two different locations even at the same time why is that so amazing, why would Jesus need to be a ventriloquist?!? But perhaps you worship a small God who can only be and act [communicate] in one location at a time [in only one way at a time] People unwittingly put god into a box or environment for God to live in rather then God creating the box and environments for men and angels to live you. Obviously That part of the spirit of God which is connected to the flesh that was born into this world is connected to that flesh in a way that the rest of the same spirit of God is not. Ergo, the distinctions between the Father, Son and Holy spirit are distinctions in function and of circumstance/condition of the various parts of God not differences in person!?!

PGg10... There are only distinctions in the manifestations due to being in different kinds of universes ie spiritual & physical and functioning differently in those all at the same time....Same HE or HIM but the HE that is in heaven is also the He that is on earth but the HE on earth is subordinate and obedient to the HE in heaven because the HE in heaven is the greater part of the HE that is on earth!?!.............

The Following Charts shown next are conceptualized diagrams demonstrating certain concepts about “Where God is located” and the “location” of Heaven and earth or the spiritual and physical universes. God is omnipresent and the physical and spiritual universes (environments of men and angels/ heaven and earth) all exist inside of God rather then God existing and limited to the inside of some environment that God himself must depend on. God created the environments for men and angels then projects himself into his creations which is why God is everywhere and the father and son and holy spirit can all be the same person that is injected into those creations at different times and or different ways and yet remain undiluted or disconnected from each other.

SLIDE # 1 Here is a diagram that graphically depicts how ONE PERSON who is God can Be everywhere at the same time... If a omnipresent God speaks from two different locations even at the same time why is that so amazing, why would Jesus need to be a ventriloquist?!? But perhaps you worship a small God who can only be and act [communicate] in one location at a time [in only one way at a time] People unwittingly put god into a box or environment for God to live in rather then God creating the box and environments for men and angels to live in. Obviously That part of the spirit of God which is connected to the flesh that was born into this world is connected to that flesh in a way that the rest of the same spirit of God is not. Ergo, the distinctions between the Father, Son and Holy spirit are distinctions in function and of circumstance/condition of the various parts of God not differences in person!?! When you were born you were given a spirit by God but it is a human spirit and it animates your physical human flesh (your spirit does not extend beyond your physical body)....when the flesh that was born into this world called Jesus was given a spirit IT WAS THE SPIRIT OF GOD in it, animating it. (the part of God’s own spirit that he considers to be his right hand)

God in heaven had a body manifested that the angels interacted with (who is described as looking like a man who sits on a throne) The same God had a human body of physical flesh here on earth that he manifested himself to physical man with. But the fact that God can and did take multiple different bodies at the same time is NOT “evidence” that God is multiple different persons. On the contrary God sates he is one person but it is evidence that he is a God who unlike the angels can be in different places at the same time even in different bodies/shapes/ forms/ projections (Mat 3:16) at the same time doing different things for the very reason that He is God and not just a spirit or an angel. In fact, Jesus is both the high priest who offered his own blood into the holy of hollies in heaven as well as the sacrificial lamb that shed that blood AT THE SAME TIME!! He is the spirit of Spirits the omnipresent God who is in multiple different places all at the same time even in different forms/ manifestations/ bodies (Mat 3:16)

NOTE ON REV 21:22-23: Two different projections/forms of the same person .Part of that one person who is God is in the form of a man sitting on the throne while at the same time a different part of the same person God is projected looking like a lamb that was slain .....SAME OMNIPRESENT PERSON in multiple different forms simultaneously.........It is quite Ironic that you absolutely cannot understand/ refuse to accept one omnipresent person who is occupying multiple different projections/forms at the same time ...NO, NO for you it could not possibly be truth. On the other hand you have no difficulty insisting that it must be the same one omnipresent God who is multiple different persons!?!?!............so the choice is ONE GOD who can/is/takes multiple different forms or is multiple different persons?!?!..............What is so ironic is that without the other scriptures to go off of then we could say that both of those are "theoretical possible in and of themselves............. However, we do have specific scriptures with specific information where God specifically claims to be ONE PERSON only!?!?!?........... so your choice to is deny that it is the same person in multiple different projections/forms and insist it must be multiple different persons!?!?!......(if only you had bothered to look and understand the charts).............YOU FOOLS, HYPOCRITES AND BLIND GUIDES! ........your damnation will be most just

NEXT IS: Slide #2 "where is God"?.....Jesus who is God standing at the right hand of God, YES himself! (Acts 7:56;) ....When I sit down my right hand (an object) is “at my right hand" (a location). Take a look at the diagrams in this Chapter which conceptualizes the whole idea of "where God is". There are many other things we shall continue to explore in this study and once you see it you should realize just how simple it all really is. Then your next question will be “how come then so few or almost no one ever saw all this before”; to which i suggest (A) a few have (B) 2 Thess 2:10-11.

It is rather ironic even hypocritical that some would also try to point to Rev 5:7. And he came and took the book out of the right hand of him that sat upon the throne. Note the diagram could have just as easily drawn this to show a lamb and a man sitting on a throne. They attempt to point to this verse to claim “see Jesus is not the literal right hand of God because Jesus took it out of the right hand of God” and thus as such, they will argue, Jesus must be a different person then the father.

(1) These are the same people who claim “you cant take revelation literal it is symbolic” and “metaphorical”. These are double minded, cherry picking hypocrites. Look, verse 6 states “ and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain.”…So, there is a “man” sitting on the throne but, it was the lamb (look like a slain animal not a human man) that took the book NOT a different man who comes and takes the book out of the hand of the man who is sitting on the throne not that it would matter if it did for the reasons explained here, The point should become obvious once you understand that God can take as many and as many different bodies as he chooses all at the same time without being different persons. Remember, Christ who is our High is also the sacrificial lamb of God, multiple simultaneous roles are not difficult for the omnipresent God. God is “omnipresent” (and not limited to a singular body or body type even at the same time, Side one demonstrates the fact that God did take multiple different bodies at the same time, so pointing to that as “evidence” that God is multiple different persons is just pointing to your Trinitarian conclusion as “evidence” for itself!?! ) Angels are spirits also but they have bodies that they are limited/confined within/ to and they are NOT “omnipresent”. God on the other hand is not “confined to the limited space of a singular body. He created all things and can take as many different bodies as he likes all at the same time without being multiple and or different omnipresent persons! God is ONE PERSON who can be anywhere at the same time!?

(2) Take note of the omnipresence of God and how the anthropomorphic (with the likeness of man; hands arms, sitting on a throne or chair) God sitting on the throne is NOT everything or all there is to God. (Obviously the same omnipresent “ONE GOD” was in heaven and on earth at the same time!!) The anthropomorphic God (man sitting on the throne) is only that part of God that is manifested or projected into the place that God created called heaven (spiritual universe); the environment where the angels also live. God created environments for spirits and angels to live in, God exist external of any and all environments (He is “omnipresent) that angels/demons, humans et al live in. God has a anthropomorphic projection of HIMSELF in heaven but God can be in multiple different locations (or bodies) at the same time, doing different things because God is omnipresent/ everywhere! God is not limited to the confines of any singular anthropomorphic manifestation/projection into “heaven” or earth (Gen 18:2) because God is everywhere and anthropomorphisms are just the projections/ manifestations that God who is “omnipresent” (and not limited to a singular body) uses to show things either to his other heavenly host and or to men on earth. God is not limited by any number of anthropomorphism . But God is limited by His own word which is that he does have what he considers to be a right arm and that is what he would send and call his son, and except you believe it you will die in your sins! God can and is in/ manifested/projected in multiple different locations doing multiple different things all at the same time, for the very Reason that ONLY HE the omnipresent God could, be “all in all”!?!

What John saw in heaven was literal but it was not God in a box it was a box that God projected himself into as a animal that had been slain and as the father sitting on the throne before the angels and other heavenly host. But the omnipresent God is not totally encapsulated in any number of different bodies and or certainly not the limited forms of a lamb and a man sitting on a throne!?

There are many different ways these diagrams could have been draw and even if you do not like my illustrations common sense should tell you that if Jesus is God then he is the OMNIPRESENT GOD and the “difficulty” is only one of proper conceptualization not anything found in the text.

PART 2 Pgs 91-101 ...CHAPTER EIGHT:

“LETS TALK ABOUT ‘US’”

But some will say “what About Gen “God said let us”………Summary:

1. it actually states “ELOHIM said let us” ... while verse 26 uses the plural pronoun “us” it then uses the single pronouns “his” and “he” to reference God in verse 27. Thus, the argument that would claim God must be a plurality of persons because of verse 26 would also demand that God is a single person in verse 27. Logical coherence and or even so much as basic consistency are not values that the Trinitarians can afford to concern themselves (or anyone else,”…. never mind that man behind the curtain”) with too much.

2. The scriptures call angels and demons et al Elohim because the word is NOT a name but rather akin to a classification of life….Animal life….Human life…..Elohim life….Further the word Elohim is used in the very same way that the English word fish is used the same spelling of the word can refer to singular or plural, as in:…I have a FISH (singular Ex 4:16/ 7:1)…or…I have many FISH. (plural Ps 95:3; 97:9; 82:1-7 et al) Note that the word Elohim also has a singular sense (see also Ex 4:16, 7:1). In the Ps references here we can also see that “ALL ELOHIM” demands that each one is a elohim. …. The comparison and contrast is also made in the fact that there are “OTHER ELOHIM” and God is above ALL those OTHER ELOHIM. …The fact that any language has different forms of the same word and or multiple different words that can all mean and or refer to the same definition does not invalidate the definition

FISH can be used as SINGLAR or PLURAL

FISHES is just another form of the word …The fact that the word Fishes exist does not prove that the word FISH is always singular!?!? www.dictionary.com/browse/fishes

Elohim is SINGULAR or PLURAL…..the fact that there is another form of the word ELOAH proves nothing !?!

3. Thirdly and most importantly, apparently either ignored or by virtue of absolute gross and inexcusable ignorance or willfully so but God has a conversation with a certain man, “in your KJV bible”,( or any of the other translations ) and lets him know that the angles were present and participating and doing work in the creation! In fact, God makes a point to tell this man that the man does not know the names of and or the “who did exactly what” during the creation. A king proclaiming work to be done before all of his servants: only a fool would doubt that He is talking to his servants and instead think he was only talking to himself.!?!? While it is true that God spoke some things into existence it is untrue that everything created was spoken into existence. Man was “formed” from the dirt that God had already created several days prior. Man was not spoken into existence he was first formed and then God breathed into the clay/dirt that had been formed. If we create machines to do work for us, then when the work is done WE not the machines claim and obtain all the credit

How come so many are so ignorant of these scriptural facts?..and yet I know why……. it demonstrates 2Thess 2:11-12............... When God said He is ONE, there is no excuse for God In three persons…… Some would ask: “Does it means that angels is also a creator?”...NO why would it?..if you create a machine that can do work for you when the work is done YOU still get all the credit...God Created the angles (host of elohim; who also are always described looking like men because God created them with the same image that God himself is describe as having!?!) who in turn were involved in the creation process when God created the heavens and earth...Thus, although they (all the other elohim) were present and participating in the creation it was Lord Elohim (Lord of the Elohim who is himself Elohim; aka GOD) ALONE who gets ALL the credit because God created the angels and everything else...simple logic....the fact that the angels were present and participating is not mutually exclusive to God taking all the credit for the work any more so then a king takes the credit for building his empire even though his servants are involved in the work..they all do the work under the authority and power of the King and in this case it goes even further because in this case the King even created the servants that will be participating in the construction processes

Well Now,…………“Lets talk about ‘Us’”

PG 91- 92…….On “BEING” a PERSON……

There a chasm of dichotomy between what (A) Trinitarins claim ….and (B) what they are doing in actuality …..

(1) the Trinitarian claim is that God is three different persons but still ONE being ( ASSERTION)

(2) The Trinitarians three different persons is in REALITY three different beings. Because a person is “a being” and “a being” is a person. (REALITY)

Simply imagining that there is a compatible but diametrically opposed pole difference between “a being” and “a person” ....... the idea that one being could be three different persons who are not three different beings when a person is a being by definition then what is really at work here is a willful denial of reality in favor of someone’s imagination.

Three different persons can NEVER be ONE IN NUMBER OF BEING…..in fact to suggest such is a oxymoron. A person is a being and three different persons is three different beings so to say God is three different persons who are one being is in fact to say (while trying to hide behind different terms that mean the same thing) "God is three different beings who are one being". It would be just like me trying to say I have one Vehicle that is three different cars. That is incoherent nosense!............ A rose by any other name is still a rose. Three different persons is three different beings a single being that is three different persons only exist in the minds of those that create and hold on to that idea. The scriptures never say such things and Man is made in the image of God and that image demonstrates no such thing. .....

PG 17……The following diagram depicts three different animals, three different humans and the Trinitarian result of three different persons in a “godhead” (Three different persons who are each God is no different then three different persons who are all Human or three different pets that are all animals ) Bill, Jack and Jill are three different persons but "NOT ONE HUMAN BEING" (not one being).....Cat, Dog and Mouse are three different pets each with their own "personality" , They are "NOT ONE ANIMAL"(not one being)...............To claim that father son and holy spirit are three different persons is "NOT ONE ELOHIM".......nor is is ONE GOD"..........Nor is it "ONE DIVINITY" ...............

ELOHIM, HUMAN & ANIMAL are all classifications of life they are not names. Refer back to 8 for the proof that many persons are called Elohim angels demons even dead people. The point of the chart should be very clear unless you are confused by the linguistic contortions and acrobatics of the doctrine of trinity which all things considered should not be so surprising since it is by definition "INCOMPREHENSIBLE" (incoherent & inconsistent) It is no wonder then that the thinking of those who cannot grasp the significance here is also "INCOMPREHENSIBLE" (incoherent & inconsistent) Running around calling three different cars “ONE VEHICLE” or “THE VEHICLE (“GOD HEAD”) does not force reality to conform to your "confessions (or professions) of Faith". A person is a “BEING” but three different persons is NEVER considered a being.....Likewise calling your three different god persons with different amounts of god knowledge wisdom and authority ONE God is simply delusional. (2 Thess 2: 11) Three gods is not one god no matter how much or how hard you confess it or want to believe that you only worship one God any more so then a prostitute, who claims/ confessing (ad nauseum) that pagan worship and or immoral practices are not immoral and that she denounces all forms of sexual immorality will not magically make the whoredom suddenly an expression of "good works"!?!.....ONE animal is ONE being....ONE PERSON is ONE BEING.....These kinds of arguments hold no water and only shows the lengths to which trinitarins will attempt at linguistic contortions to try to justify a incoherent and heretical position at any and all cost of reason, logic or scripture et al

“All things are three, and thrice is all: and let us use this number in the worship of the gods; for, as the Pythagoreans say, everything and all things are bounded by threes, for the end, the middle and the beginning have this number in everything, and these compose the number of the Trinity’ “ (Aristotle, Fourth Century B.C. quote taken from: Arthur Weigall, Paganism in Our Christianity, 1928, pp. 197-198)

“It is generally, although erroneously, supposed that the doctrine of the Trinity is of Christian origin. Nearly every nation of antiquity possessed a similar doctrine. [The early Catholic theologian] St. Jerome testifies unequivocally, ‘All the ancient nations believed in the Trinity’ ” (Marie Sinclair, Countess of Caithness, Old Truths in a New Light, 1876 p. 382).

Col 2:8. Beware lest any man SPOIL YOU THROUGH PHILOSOPHY and vain DECEIT, AFTER THE TRADITION OF MEN, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ. 9. For IN HIM DWELLETH ALL THE FULNESS OF THE GODHEAD BODILY

2Thess 2:11. And for this cause GOD SHALL SEND THEM STRONG DELUSION, that they should believe a lie: 12. That THEY ALL MIGHT BE DAMNED WHO BELIEVED NOT THE TRUTH, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

2Tim 4:3. For the time will come when THEY WILL NOT ENDURE SOUND DOCTRINE; but after their own lusts shall they HEAP TO THEMSELVES TEACHERS, having itching ears; 4. And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and SHALL BE TURNED UNTO FABLES.

… TRYING TO APPLY OR INSISTING THAT A COMPOUND UNITY IS HOW ECHAD SHOULD BE UNDERSTOOD IN DEUT 6:4 IS PURELY THE RESULT OF ACADEMIC FOOLS TRYING TO PLAY ACROBATIC EXEGESIS AND DECEIVING UNSTABLE AND UNLEARNED MEN!?!

ECHAD..ECHAD...MY GOD...GOD IS ECHAD!

PART 1

Mark 12:28. And one of the scribes came, ...., asked him, Which is the first commandment of all? 29. And Jesus answered him, The THE FIRST OF ALL THE COMMANDMENTS IS, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is ONE (HEIS) Lord:........IF YOU CANNOT PROPERLY GRASP THE CONCEPT OF “ONE GOD” (and “who” [what person] Jesus is) THEN ALL THE REST OF YOUR THEOLOGY IS MOOT

Linguistically, both the Hebrew and the Greek NT terms translated as “ONE” in various places to modify “God” as in “God is ONE” destroy all pretense to God in three different persons.

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The word Echad is used almost IDENTICAL AS THE ENGLISH WORD "ONE"......... Both the words "ONE" and "ECHAD" refer to

(a) ONE PERSON/ or item ONLY (Ezk33:24; Eccl 4:8)

(b) multiple different persons who are acting as one (Gen 2:24)

(d) While other possible uses for Echad exist such as “first” (e.g Isaiah 51:20); or “unique” in certain passages [e.g. based primarily on Job 23:13; Ez 7:1; 1Chron 17:21; 2Sam 7:23; et al] but none of these are relevant (nor necessary to debate the virtues of such as “unique”) because the same passage and word is used in the NT with specific Greek word where uses such as “first” or “unique” would not be accurate and or permissible

Thus the mere fact that the word echad is used anywhere does not demand any one of those definitions just by itself NOR CAN YOU CHERRY PICK A DEFINITION YOU WANT TO USE SUCH AS A "COMPOUND UNITY"!?!…. so WHICH ONE OF THESE USES IS THE CORRECT USE?

There are two FUNDAMENTAL AND DEVASTATING reasons why ECHAD in Deut 6:4 (or any of the other places where God is defined by that word) cannot refer to a compound unity. Each reason stands on its own not dependent on the other and either one destroys the Trinitarians.

FIRST:

(1) The word Echad can be used almost identical to the English word “ONE” it can refer to

(a) NO COMPOUND UNITY of ONE a single solitary ONE PERSON ONLY (Ezk33:24; Eccl 4:8) …

OR…….

(b) COMPOUND UNITY : a husband and wife/ table and chairs as ONE which is a compound unity (Gen 2:24); Ezk 37:17; Ez 2:64 ) ….Thus the fact that God uses the word ECHAD does not show that God is a compound unity any more so then to say “I am ONE” shows that I am a compound unity nor does it prove that I should have said “I am ALONE”

So which is it in Deut 6:4? Well the same grammar rule that applies to (Ezk33:24; Eccl 4:8) applies to Deut 6:4 …Namely:

In Hebrew the word ECHAD must be accompanied by collective sets of nouns pronouns to identify as a compound unity in the same way the English word “ONE “ is used………..

EXAMPLE A: ECHAD /ONE/ HEN used as a COMPOUND UNITY of ONE:

-ENGLISH

The table/Husband and chairs/Wife are ONE

-GREEK

The table/Husband and chairs/Wife are HEN

-HEBREW

The table/Husband and chairs/Wife are ECHAD

HERE IS WHERE : Echad in scripture used as multiple different persons who are acting as one (Gen 2:24) And or multiple different parts of the same person or thing that act as one .(Ezk 37:17; Ez 2:64)

When the word Echad is used with reference to God it is NEVER qualified with multiple sets of pronouns/nouns WHICH IN HEBREW IT MUST in order to interpret or claim a compound unity exist and is almost identical in the way that the English word ONE does!?!?!?

If you say you have ONE/ECHAD table no compound unity Is under consideration period! …if on the other hand you say those legs and top fit together as ONE/ECHAD then and only then is a compound unity under consideration….This is true for the Hebrew word Echad …It must be accompanied by multiple pronouns and nouns to suggest or claim any compound unity is under consideration but it NEVER IS WHEN GOD IS THE SUBJECT!?!?

EXAMPLE B ECHAD /ONE/ HEIS as a numeral singular ONE person place or thing with NO compound unity:

-ENGLISH

I have ONE table

-GREEK

I have HEIS table

-HEBREW

I have ECHAD table

HERE IS WHERE : Echad in scripture used as ONE PERSON/or thing ONLY (Ezk33:24; Eccl 4:8) NO COMPOUND UNITY IS HERE EVEN THOUGH THE WORD ECHAD IS USED!

So, just as with the English word “ one” is defined by the context so too is the Hebrew word Echad defined by the context in which it is found. Collective sets of nouns/pronouns indicate a compound unity as in the table and chairs are “ECHAD”/ “one” ( set ) If on the other hand all you have is “one”/ “echad” table then there is not compound unity involved. When the Lord states that HE is one there is no compound unity under consideration because for there to be so then the OT text would have had to spell out that the Lord of he and I and him are “one” However, the OT context and sentence structure where Echad is used to describe God forbids any compound unity because for a compound unity to exist it must be qualified with a collective set of nouns/ pronouns, which it never is.

NOTE: The word used in Deut 6:4 is Echad not Yachid nor does the existence of the word Yachid prove anything about how Echad is to be understood in Deut 6:4

(A) The fact that any language has different forms of the same word and or multiple different words that can all mean and or refer to the same definition does not invalidate the definition!?! (example I am ALONE …or I am BY MYSELF) This Trinitarian kind of argument is saying basically that since God could have used the word FORTOLD (yachid) but chose to use PROPHECY (Echad) instead therefore the word PROPHECY (Echad) can’t have/ be used with the same meaning as the word FORTOLD(yachid)!?!?! …Prov 26:12

FISH can be used as SINGLAR or PLURAL

FISHES is just another form of the word …The fact that the word Fishes exist does not prove that the word FISH is always singular!?!? www.dictionary.com/browse/fishes

Elohim is SINGULAR or PLURAL…..the fact that there is another form of the word ELOAH proves nothing !?!

(B) Since the word Echad can be used almost identical to the English word “ONE” it can refer to a single solitary NO compound unity of ONE(Ezk33:24; Eccl 4:8) …OR……. it can also refer to a husband and wife/ table and chairs as ONE which is a compound unity ((Gen 2:24); Ezk 37:17; Ez 2:64 ) ….Thus the fact that God uses the word ECHAD does not show that God is a compound unity any more so then to say “I am ONE” shows that I am a compound unity nor does it prove that I should have said “I am ALONE” if i intended that to be understood ….Trying to argue that God should have used this word Yachid instead of that word Ecahd if he wanted folks to understand that he is only one person is a ridiculous and self-righteous argument of cowards, fools and liars (trinitarians) ……Prov 26:12

Further and final note for this first part: “A compound unity” can refer to different parts of the same thing or person as well as different persons who are acting/ unified as one. So even if “a compound unity” is assumed in Deut 6:4 that still would not demonstrate that God would be multiple different persons as opposed to having different modes/parts/manifestations that are unified together such as the different parts of the human body are all unified as one but only a fool should suggest that compound unity represented multiple different persons!

SECOND

(A) The same verse and words of Deut 6:4 are translated in the NT with specific Greek words that PROHIBIT and FORBID any more then ONE PERSON !?! Thus the NT writers understood ECHAD in Deut 6:4 NOT as a compound unity but as ONE person ONLY…..

In the NT two different Greek words are used to express those SAME BASIC SET OF DEFINITIONS found in the Hebrew word Echad or the English word "ONE" they are “Heis” & “Hen”

“HEIS” (a) ONE PERSON ONLY This word demands a singular person (or item) when person (or item) is the object being quantified by that number. (NO EXCEPTIONS EXIST, not even in Gal 3:28!?!) This word is used thousands of time in the NT (even if you do not count the times it refers to God) and when it refers to persons it NEVER defines more then ONE single person period!

Joseph Henry Thayer: “Heis” means the cardinal numeral ONE. Where the word “heis” takes the place of a predicate it means one person. (Page 186. A Greek, English Lexicon of the New Testament.)

Mr. A. T. Robertson: “One,” when masculine (heis) sets forth the idea of the cardinal numeral “one.” When referring to people or beings, ALWAYS the numeral “one” is implied. (Page 186 vol 5; pages 526 and 527, vol 4; page 299 vol 4. Word Pictures of the Greek New Testament.)

Bauer: The masculine “one” (heis) means, A single; only one. (Page 230 Bauer’s Greek Lexicon.)

Gingrich: The masculine “one,” (heis), is equivalent to ‘protos’ which means‘first’. Only one; single. (Page 57, Shorter Lexicon of the Greek New Testament).

“HEN” (b) multiple different persons who are acting as one “HEN” (1Cor 3:6; Jn 11:52 et al)

(c) multiple different parts of the same one person or thing that act as one (1Cor 12-14-20 the PARTS of the human body are ONE/ HEN et al)

IN the NT when Deut 6:4 et al is referred to by Christ it is recorded as using the Greek word “HEIS”.NOT HEN!?!?....Thus Linguistically, destroys all pretense to God in different persons.......

When two or more words or concepts equally apply have different possible meanings they can only logically apply in a way that they do not contradict each other.(you cannot appeal to self contradiction in terms to make a valid argument)..the Trinitarian argument is incoherent and certainly not consistent with itself. Logically The church members are "Hen" but cannot be "heis". so multiple persons is the demand. On the other hand, your head and right arm are both "Hen" and "heis" this can only be logically coherent as ONE PERSON with parts or parts of the same person. Likewise; Father and son are "hen" and God is ONLY and always "heis" logically they can only be one person in parts/portions of the same person

(B ) The whole point to Gal 3:20. Now a mediator is not a mediator of one, but God is one, again, point blank, identifies the number of persons of God! The mediation is between multiple persons (“a party” of God and man); the “but” points out the contrast between the multiple persons in a mediation party verses the “one” of God; The “BUT” is making the point that God is not like a mediation party with multiple persons, God is ONE [person]!?! The one is contrasted against “a party” or multiple persons……….. No matter how one try’s to interpret the parties as individual persons with opposing views or as two different groups or parties (ie corporations) with opposing views, this verse makes a contrast between those meditations and parties which are “NOT ONE” (person), But God “IS ONE” (Person). Thus any attempt to lay claim that this verse does not destroy all contrary pretenses about the fact that God is only one person is willful ignorance and delusional nonsense of the greatest magnitude.

(C) ~pg 51..There are two kinds of oneness one of purpose/Unity/ and one of Person and one kind of oneness does not exclude the truth of the other kind of oneness. They are NOT mutually exclusive. You can’t use one kind of oneness to make void the other with. If Christ is praying for one kind of oneness you cant then assume that well he must be denying the other kind of oneness. The fact is the father and the son just like a head and right arm are BOTH one in purpose/unity AND (as he states elsewhere in other context) one in person. Thus, pointing to passages such as these which use the word “HEN” and in the obvious context of unity of purpose/action/goal and speaks of the oneness of Jesus and the father in that unity wanting his disciples to also be in THAT UNITY just as the right arm (Jesus/son) and head (father) are in THAT UNITY does not have anything to do with the number of persons of God. Jesus is NOT asking that they be one in person nor is he denying that the son and father are one person. The only oneness (Jesus is praying for) under consideration here is the UNITY of parts/purpose/action NOT persons!?! Thus, these passages have nothing to do with the number of persons of God nor can it "Quality" the number of persons of God. In fact they are completely irrelevant in defining the number of persons of God except as an good example of Trinitarian faulty exegesis and logical fallacies..

SUMMARY:

There are two fundamental underlying arguments that destroy any and all trinitarian arguments/ comments to the contrary

(A) The Hebrew grammar prevents ECAHD from having compound unity in specific verses

(B) The Greek grammar prevents the same word translated into from having compound unity

Since "compound unity" is NOT consistent with how the OT or NT writers used/ translated Deut 6:4 the word nor can echad be said to be only used or understood as “compound unity as such:

……… TRYING TO APPLY OR INSISTING THAT A COMPOUND UNITY IS HOW ECHAD SHOULD BE UNDERSTOOD IN DEUT 6:4 IS PURELY THE RESULT OF AN ACADEMIC FOOLS TRYING TO PLAY ACROBATIC EXEGESIS AND DECEIVING UNSTABLE AND UNLEARNED MEN!?!…It is these trinitarin et al type arguments like the ones addressed here that demonstrate those who are making them are either woefully Incompetent or liars or the minions of other cowards who hopes no one can point them out for what they are.

God said he would CHOOSE send you STRONG DELUSIONS. I bet it never occurred to the trinitarians et al that God would ever use words in such a way as to allow folks like them to “get confused” (inexcusably so) or lied to and delude themselves with. (2Thess 2:11-12/Isa 66:4/1Kings 22:19-23/ 2Chron 18:18-22) Not only do they not know what they are talking about but the books and or people who are teaching these kinds of argument are cowards who know that they cant defend it so they create as many tape-recorded minions and send them out as one of their “students” so they can avoid the risk of embarrassment of being shown wrong and incompetent. But, don’t worry because they have a vey good reason (stupid reason) why you were not able to answer the anti- trinitarins as well as they themselves could have "if it had been them"!?!…However, if on the other hand no one is able to show these minions the foolishness of their arguments, then the Trinitarian scholars and “teachers” will congratulate the minions on how well they have been taught. I can hear Darth Sideous now: “you have been taught well, they will be no match for you”…..In other words THEY ( the Trinitarian “scholars” and liars who are teaching these arguments) are using you and in their eyes see you as “useful idiots” ……….or just “good minions” (like bob and Stewart) ….you can “see it” however makes you dandelions grow happy…..... …Prov 26:12

PART 3 slide presentation on the scriptures where EVEN GOD USES MODALISM by definition to describe himself and who would be coming in the flesh

.....and yet the trinitarians will say

MODALISM also called Sabellianism, is THE UNORTHODOX BELIEF that God is one person who has revealed himself in three FORMS or MODES in contrast to the Trinitarian doctrine where God is one being eternally existing in three persons. http://www.theopedia.com/modalism

MODALISM teaches that the Heavenly Father, Resurrected Son and Holy Spirit identified by the Trinity Doctrine are different modes OR ASPECTS of the One God, as perceived by the believer, rather than three coeternal persons within the Godhead. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabellianism

ASPECT is a term used across several religions and in theology to describe a particular manifestation or conception of a deity or other divine being. Depending the religion, these might to disjoint OR overlapping PARTS, or METHODS of perceiving or conceptualizing the deity in a particular context. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aspect_(religion)

That fact that a anthrophomorphism is used to describe the PARTS of the deity that is manifested as such is modalistic!?!..........it is that simple .....God sending or manifesting three different PARTS of himself is modalism by definition.....Those three different PARTS that God manifest can be

(1) anthrophomorphism(s)

(2) any other number of qualities/ aspects of God (love, wisdom et al) .

GOD HIMSELF describes his nature and what was sent and manifest of himself to man in MOADLISTIC terms concepts of PARTS of himself NOT different persons......

ANTHROPOMORPHISM is the attribution of human characteristics and qualities to non-human beings, objects, natural, or supernatural phenomena. God, animals, the forces of nature, and unseen or unknown authors of chance are frequent subjects of anthropomorphosis. The term comes from two Greek words, άνθρωπος(anthrōpos), meaning "HUMAN," and μορφή (morphē), meaning "SHAPE" or "FORM." The suffix "-ism" originates from the morpheme "-isma" in the Greek language. http://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/Anthropomorphism

Anthropomorphic adjective

1. OF or RELATING TO ANTHROPOMORPHISM

2. RESEMBLING THE HUMAN FORM

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/anthropomorphic?s=t

Pg 27 ..... What is even more curiously hypocritical is the fact that according to the Trinitarian reasoning, God is not capable of being only one person in three parts. NO NO, however, on the other hand they are quick to point to how great God, past our human understanding and our limited feeble minds He is as the reason for why we should just accept that God can be one being with three different persons as a “god-head”. The coherent and consistent approach to the one person godhead is thrown out in favor of the incomprehensible three person God because God is so great he could do that. They will say we don’t have to understand it because we can’t and must not put limits on God. However, on the other hand, they will deny that God is great enough to be only be one person who is the father and the same person who is the son and the same person who is the holy spirit (even though that is how he describes himself.) God is not great enough to be and do that. In any case, the Trinitarian’s treat their god to only be as great and incomprehensible in the way and for the reason they imagine the God to be. Trinitarinas have no difficulty “seeing” (never mind they also claim it is impossible to fully understand) that God is three different persons (with three different minds and or three different locations with different amounts of knowledge, power and authority that send each other around) but they cannot, will not accept and would fiercely deny and claim that it is impossible for one God with one person, could just have three different modes bodies (physical/spiritual He occupies) of all the same person!?! You see God is only as Great and incomprehensible in the way and for they reasons that they say God is past (your) “feeble” human understanding, but they in their “humility”, accept that fact; and “be damned” what anyone or any scriptures have to say otherwise about it.

That part of the spirit of God that God considers to be his own right arm comes occupies and is “fussed” with human flesh in a way that the rest of God is not. The distinction is in that fact and the “additional sensations/existence” that human flesh/spirit fusion create, not a distinction in person. .......When someone goes to put a needle in my arm IT REACTS to pull back but my head tells it no stay there it is for the best….but only a fool would try to conclude that my right arm is a different person, even though it has “a will of its own” …Trinitarian attempt to deny what God plainly states about his own nature and “PERSON” based on the trinitarians “rational” arguments but build your whole God on the incomprehensible concept of three different person who are each God with different “god” powers and knowledge as only ONE GOD rather then what that really is which is three different Gods…...So [for trinitarians et al] they and their arguments attempt to convince everyone that the best most reasonable arguments from scriptures reach a conclusion that is “incomprehensible” and you must accept the truth of it as such while ignoring what and How God specificaly describe himself and accepting what God specifically denounces (God specifically denounces that he is multiple different persons see part 1 ) ....The right arm that God describes is just a figure of speech not to be taken too literally while the ideas that plainly contradicts God must be accepted as “plain truth”. ...These men PROV 26:12!?!

Pg15 …..YES JESUS DID CLAIMED TO BE GOD SPECIFICLY ( However it is right to say Jesus choose his words carefully because he did not want folks to focus on the flesh that was standing before them but rather the spirit that was animating that flesh) The problem is that even most Christians either do not know or do not care what GOD said about HIMSELF …Ergo the heresy of trinity….. The Righteous Right Hand of the Lord "HE COMETH"............ " NO REALY ….'I AM HE'; IT’S JUST ME!!".... The RIGHT ARM/HAND is what is REVEALED, …What is sent and comes to SAVE US, the “SALVATION REAVEALD”, that right arm comes and gets “THE VICTORY” and will “RULE”. That right arm/hand IS "His RIGHTEOUS SERVANT" that God “MADE BARE” and was “LIFTED UP/EXALTED” and thus “BARE THE SINS of many” !?!? This is the absolute strongest case for the fact that yes, JESUS DID CLAIM TO BE GOD, COME IN THE FLESH!!…

Pg 19…THE STRONGEST CASE…Some have asked where did Jesus specifically say "I AM GOD"...Ok, consider, If you ask me are you the preacher I might say yea "I am he"; that is just a generic reference that could apply to anything ....HOWEVER, Jesus is making specific scriptural references and laying claim to where GOD himself claimed to be "I AM HE" when he describes the right arm that would come......It was no different then if you ask someone right now are you that part of God that God called his own right arm? and they responded with "I AM HE" that would be same as them saying I AM GOD..I AM that right arm......The reference Jesus uses is a specific reference to being God......When Christ lays claim to “I AM HE” it was the same as saying God said about himself " I AM HE" …and you need to know and believe that “I AM HE” refers to me and as such is a specific claim to being God....!?!

Lest the subtleties of what is being said here escape you let me speak plainly: The “I am he” IS LITERALY the same person “me” that is going to send………….

Pg 36........ Christ is part of the omnipresent Spirit of God (that God considers to be His own right arm) attached to flesh but not limited to the confines of that flesh; connected in a way that the rest of God is not.. ….He (Jesus) is however, that part of God that God himself considers to be his own right arm that came in the flesh. ……..and the terms that God uses are the very ones that man who is made in his image are not just modalist but staunchly anti-trinitarian! His son is his right arm... …. before you scoff with Jesus was just a hand puppet of God (Gods right arm in human flesh) then consider you likewise are just as much a puppet of the soul/spirit that is in your flesh the only difference is that you are a different person (then God) who’s spirit is limited to the confines of your human flesh while Christ is part of the omnipresent Spirit of God (that God considers to be His own right arm) attached to flesh but not limited to the confines of that flesh; connected in a way that the rest of God is not. A SIMPLE THOUGHT EXERCISE WITH A HAND PUPPET ANIMATED BY YOU (THE UNSEEN BEHIND THE CURTAIN SPIRIT USING YOUR RIGHT HAND) EXPLAINS ALL THE “DIFFICULTY” UNDERSTANDING WITH SUCH PASSAGES as Jn 10:29-31; 12:49 et al

~Pg61........Your spirit animates your body just as a puppet is animated by a hand in a puppet glove. (the spirit is the life what gives animation to the flesh) You can put your right hand into a glove or puppet and animate it. Your spirit is animating your physical flesh. The physical flesh is nothing more then a more complex puppet of your spirit. Jesus is nothing but that part of the spirit of God that came and occupied the same physical flesh as you and me and animated it in the same way that we are animated by our spirits. The difference is that our spirits were created by Jesus himself who is the father and God of all spirits. If you find the concept of Jesus as a puppet disturbing then just look in the mirror because that is what you are! ....

Pg 120 Everyday experience can explain the nature of God using the modalistic descriptions and allegories found in scripture with everyday experience. However, trinitarianism cannot be seen or understood in everyday experience and is in fact as admitted to in their own “confessions of faith” (and by virtue of their “God is so great we cant put God in a box, we just can’t understand it arguments/excuses) is admittedly “INCOMPREHSIBLE”.

Pg143….….But wait someone would say, I would never consider my right arm to be my son so why would God consider his right arm to be his son?...... Because of the physical birth of male human flesh that was born as a “son of man” (that was in fact God himself) and as such belongs to God. Was it Mary’s son or God’s son? It is simply a matter of perspective. The male child was born of a virgin but the male human flesh was animated or only had life via that part of God considered to be his own right arm and as such that male human flesh was literally the human flesh of God since it was A SON and God had no other human flesh (or son) it was literally the ONLY or unique birthed BEGOTTON SON (male human flesh) OF GOD (belonging to / the possession "of God") Jesus is a son because what was physical born was male human flesh and a son that was the possession of God because it was God in that male (son) human flesh .NOT because some other different god person who was not a powerful and knowledgeable as the father God person! .....Except you believe it you will die in your sins..

Pg 14 ..It is superfluous even fallacious to insist on a second person of God because a son must be a different person then a human father because Jesus did not have a human father and God does not take a wife and have children like men do ?!?!… God via the angel told Mary that what was going to be born was to be called the son of God, (NOTE: here in Heb it states “I WILL BE TO HIM A FATHER, AND HE SHALL BE TO ME A SON?) NOT because the servant/Right arm sent is a different person then the father who sent his right arm/ “My servant” the son. Jesus is a literal son by virtue of the birth into human flesh NOT by virtue of having a different person then the father. Further, it is important to understand that there was no son of God until the son was born however that part of God himself that He considers to be God’s own hand / right arm (by which he created all things and would latter send via a physical birth) had always existed. The fact that God has distinctions between father son and Holy Spirit is not any more incomprehensible then a man with a head and right arm (that comes to “man” via a physical birth ergo called the “son of man” & “Son of God”) and a sprit that animates them all. One might be tempted to think that God actually intended for us to understand his nature by using the very creation (even in the language and terminology) that was made in that image.

Pg 24-25…………Since man is made in the image of God you would think that folks would want to start with that concept to apply first, rather then invoking the number three or the word Trinity entirely unnecessarily, into a God that is quite clear about the fact that He is only one person..…My right hand IS me and is WITH me (Jn 1:1).….WOW, imagine that!?!? Distinctions are not multiple persons. The fact that God has distinctions between father son and holy spirit is not any more incomprehensible then a man with a head and right arm and a sprit that animates them all. One might be tempted to think that God actually intended for us to understand his nature by using the very creation (even in the language and terminology) that was made in that image……………………… Man is made in the image of God and God uses these exact terms to describe and define his nature. You right arm is distinct from your head...It is with you and it is you....Your head is greater then your right arm (the father is greater then I).....your right arm can only know, do and communicate what your head tells it to, (Jn 8:28) unless it feels pain and then it lets the head know..."i do not like this"...so the hand wants to pull away from the needle but your head tells it no stay there it if for the best. (not my will but thy will be done) Jesus is nothing more then that part of God that God considers to be his right arm come in the flesh.

How "Ironic” (hypocritical) that Trinitarians will try to deny the scriptures use of God literally sending His right arm (even ridiculing that) because of its Anthropomorphic implications and yet that is the exact bases for all Trinitarian arguments. It is the anthropomorphic descriptors that the Trinitarian hypocrites try to use as reasons for arguing a demand for multiple/three different persons of God (ie. had to be multiple persons so that God was not praying to himself et al. The Question must be asked, “How many other Gods is there for the one God to pray [or swear] to?!?! God could swear by no greater then Himself, nor could their be any higher authority to hold God to his own oath...!?!) God is one person who only sent a part of himself called his right arm via a physical birth ergo called his son to teach us how to live pray, suffer and die to HIMSELF!?!....well, he certainly did not come to teach us how to pray and die to some other god????.....

Pg 83…SECOND: Lk 22:42 . Saying, Father, if thou be willing, remove this cup from me: nevertheless NOT MY WILL, but thine, be done. 43. And there appeared an angel unto him from heaven, strengthening him. ……………There are two different wills here so must be two different persons right? But the answer is far more simple then requiring a multiple personal headed god!?!

That part of the spirit of God that is connected to flesh is distinct from the rest of the spirit of God that is not connected to that flesh thus the distinction between them as well as how the spirit of God wars against the flesh of GOD ..Example:

Gal 5:17. For the FLESH LUSTETH AGAINST THE SPIRIT, and THE SPIRIT AGAINST THE FLESH: and THESE ARE CONTRARY THE ONE TO THE OTHER:

Mat 26:41: the SPIRIT indeed is willing, but the FLESH is weak.

Rom 8:1 walk not AFTER the FLESH, but AFTER the SPIRIT…… 5. For they that are after the flesh do mind the THINGS OF THE FLESH; but they that are after the Spirit the THINGS OF THE SPIRIT.

But What fool would suggest that since my flesh and the new spirit inside of me are contrary to each other and want different things must mean that I am multiple different persons!?!? When someone goes to put a needle in my arm IT REACTS to pull back but my head tells it no stay there it is for the best….but only a fool would try to conclude that my right arm is a different person..even though it has “a will of its own” (see also the flesh lust agains the spirit and visa versa).. A distinction between the desires or “will” of the spirit and the desires “will” of the flesh or what the spirit wants and what the flesh wants does not make for different persons!?!

The only coherent and consistent way to apply all the scriptures is in and with the allusion to head and right arm the head that scriptures make just as your right arm is you and you are the head of your right arm it is with you and is you. The issue is not what God could do or what “great things” you can image that God could do, but rather what did God say about his self, His nature and how did God describe it. The Fact that God can do more then you image is not a valid argument for why God did everything you suggest in spite of what he clearly stated!?!

Mat 27:46:46. And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, MY GOD, MY GOD, WHY HAST THOU FORSAKEN ME?

This is truly an ironic passage for Trinitarians to attempt to use because Jesus is quoting Himself!?!

1Peter 1:10. Of which salvation THE PROPHETS have inquired and searched diligently, WHO PROPHESIED of the grace that should come unto you:11. Searching what, or what manner of time THE SPIRIT OF CHRIST WHICH WAS IN THEM, when IT TESTIFIED beforehand the sufferings of Christ, and the glory that should follow……… 2Peter 1:21. For THE PROPHECY CAME not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as THEY WERE MOVED BY THE HOLY GHOST.

What did that sprit of Christ testify?.....

Psalms 22:1. MY GOD, MY GOD, why hast thou FORSAKEN ME? why art thou so far from helping me, and from the words of my roaring?

Jesus is the creator and God in the OT speaking to the prophets about himself. It was that same Jesus that quoted himself in the OT passages about his own suffering. Pay particular attention to all Psalms references (Lk 24:44)

The argument that tries to say that since Christ committed his spirit to the father at his death proves that Christ must be a different person then the father actually proves just the opposite!. However, it would be just as true to say that the spirit that was in Christ was that part of the sprit of God that God put into flesh and connected to the flesh in a way that the rest of the spirit of God (and thus the rest of God himself) was not. As such, that part of the spirit separated from (died to that flesh and went to the place of the grave called death that He himself had created) ….. On the other hand to claim that Jesus either was forsaken by God and or was a different person then the Father God in heaven leaves Jesus dead to his flesh as well as dead to (and separated from) the father (a physical death/separation as well as a spiritual death/separation from the rest of God) This creates two possibilities for those who argue for multiple different persons, both of which are heresy:

(A) Jesus died and was separated from the rest of God and thus undeniably no matter what linguistic contortions of nonsense you use, created two different gods who were separated from each other and not the same person and no longer "one". They can’t be the same one God (or one being) if they are separated dead and or forsaken to each other!?! The reality s that part of God’s own spirit that came into human flesh also “visited” the place called death/ the grave a place that right arm created in the first place!?

(B) Jesus ceased to be God so that there would only be ONE God.

Thus, once again the very argument that Trinitarians will try to use only condemns them as heretics and leaves them insisting that those are not the only possibilities because “with God all things are possible” (never mind that God is not the author of confusion and self contradictions either) or chalking up the incoherence of the arguments to: “Yea, can you believe it? Our God is such an awesome God” (he is and is not a different gods all at the same time!?!; We are pious [fools] because we don’t put limits on what God can do [no matter what God himself said about himself])

So to say that God cannot die is purely a matter of perspective it depends on what you mean by God died. In any case, it is God’s (possessive) son because that human flesh born into this world via women is a son (it is not a daughter) and belongs to God. It is God and no other person then the person who said he would send that part of himself that he considers to be his own right arm to animate/give life to that human flesh. Ergo: Son (male, son of man/women) of (belongs to) God. The idea that Jesus is a different person then the person who sent that part of himself into male human flesh born son of man is simply blasphemous! In any case, understanding “WHO” (what person) this Jesus is has everything to do with who and what God you serve.

PART 6

Same person who is speaking in this passage, sending his servant is claiming that HE is that servant that will be sent!?! Yes there is a distinction between father and son just like there is between head and right arm but in both cases the right arm and the head as well as the father and the son are still the same person!!

ANIT-CHIRST …. Pg 71 ….Trinitarianism is just as Anti-Christ as much as is ISLAM, JW, LDS, ROMAN CATHOLIC et al because (they all confess the Christ/messiah came in the flesh, Yes even Islam claims Jesus was the Jewish messiah/Christ who was to come) they all deny WHO it was (what person) that came (to be the Christ) in the flesh!?!....[ "WHO" it was (what person) that came "IN THE FLESH", IS THE DETERMINING FACTOR IN WHAT IT MEANS TO BE “ANT-CHRIST”! To deny the father is to deny the son because they are one and the same person that came in the flesh!

1John 2:18. Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that ANTICHRIST shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time. 19. THEY WENT OUT FROM US, BUT THEY WERE NOT OF US; FOR IF THEY HAD BEEN OF US, THEY WOULD NO DOUBT HAVE CONTINUED WITH US: BUT THEY WENT OUT, THAT THEY MIGHT BE MADE MANIFEST THAT THEY WERE NOT ALL OF US. 20. But ye have an unction from the Holy One, and ye know all things. 21. I have not written unto you because ye know not the truth, but because ye know it, and that no lie is of the truth. 22. Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? HE IS ANTICHRIST, THAT DENIETH THE FATHER AND THE SON. 23. WHOSOEVER DENIETH THE SON, THE SAME HATH NOT THE FATHER: [BUT] HE THAT ACKNOWLEDGETH THE SON HATH THE FATHER ALSO.

John 14: 8. Philip saith unto him, Lord, SHEW US THE FATHER,.. 9. Jesus saith unto him, HAVE I BEEN SO LONG TIME WITH YOU, AND YET HAST THOU NOT KNOWN ME, Philip? he that hath SEEN ME HATH SEEN THE FATHER; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father?

The "oneness" between Christ and the father is not comparable to a man and his wife, for only a fool would say "When you have seen me you have seen my wife, how sayest thou then, Shew us your wife?" Notice they asked to see THE FATHER and the response was Jn 14:9 ..“HAVE I BEEN SO LONG time with you, and yet hast THOU NOT KNOW ME, Philip.....Now image some fool trying to claim that statement if you asked to see his wife!?!!? The whole point to Christ statements is that he is the SAME person as the father [you want to see the FATHER but have I been with you but you don’t know me!?!?!]”

John 7:7. FOR MANY DECEIVERS ARE ENTERED INTO THE WORLD, WHO CONFESS NOT that Jesus CHRIST IS COME IN THE FLESH. This is a deceiver and an antichrist. 8. Look to yourselves, that we lose not those things which we have wrought, but that we receive a full reward. 9. WHOSOEVER TRANSGRESSETH, AND ABIDETH NOT IN THE DOCTRINE OF CHRIST, HATH NOT GOD. HE THAT ABIDETH IN THE DOCTRINE OF CHRIST, HE HATH BOTH THE FATHER AND THE SON. 10. If there come any unto you, AND BRING NOT THIS DOCTRINE, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed: 11. For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds.

1 John 4:1. Beloved, believe not every spirit, but TRY THE SPIRITS WHETHER THEY ARE OF GOD: BECAUSE MANY FALSE PROPHETS are gone out into the world. 2. Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: EVERY SPIRIT THAT CONFESSETH THAT JESUS CHRIST IS COME IN THE FLESH IS OF GOD: 3. And EVERY SPIRIT THAT CONFESSETH NOT THAT JESUS CHRIST IS COME IN THE FLESH IS NOT OF GOD: AND THIS IS THAT SPIRIT OF ANTICHRIST, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.

4. Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world. 5. They are of the world: therefore speak they of the world, and the world heareth them. 6. We are of God: he that knoweth God heareth us; he that is not of God heareth not us. Hereby know we the spirit of truth, and the spirit of error. 7. Beloved, let us love one another: for love is of God; and every one that loveth is born of God, and knoweth God. 8. He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love. 9. In this was manifested the love of God toward us, because that GOD SENT HIS ONLY BEGOTTEN SON INTO THE WORLD, that we might live through him. 10. Herein is love, not that we loved God, but that he loved us, and sent his Son to be the propitiation for our sins. 11. Beloved, if God so loved us, we ought also to love one another. 12. No man hath seen God at any time. If we love one another, God dwelleth in us, and his love is perfected in us. 13. HEREBY KNOW WE THAT WE DWELL IN HIM, AND HE IN US, BECAUSE HE HATH GIVEN US OF HIS SPIRIT. 14. And we have seen and do testify that the Father sent the Son to be the Saviour of the world. 15. WHOSOEVER SHALL CONFESS THAT JESUS IS THE SON OF GOD, GOD DWELLETH IN HIM, AND HE IN GOD.

Look at verse 12-13, do you rest your theology and salvation in the fact that you “love” those around you that you consider to be “of the faith”? Now, look at verse 15 Do you rest your theology and salvation on the fact that you and every other person claiming to be Christian confess that a man named Jesus is the son of God as reason your not anit-christ? If your going to claim that since you confess that a man named Jesus was the son of God and came in the flesh as a reason you are not anti-Christ then every person who even claims to be a Christian, that jesus is the son of God, no matter what their doctrine/denomination is will be saved because they all confess that Jesus is the son of God, thus “God dwelleth in them and they in God” and you have no reason to try to convert anyone who claims to believe Jesus is the son of God no matter what their doctrines/denominations are!. If the reader does not understand the point here, it is because they fail to see in the verse and in that statement of confessing Jesus is the son of God that the MOST IMPORTAINT principle is: “who the person of the man Jesus is” (cross-reference “The Name of the Lord”/ “The word” in Chapter 7) Who the person of Jesus is the whole crux of the matter (There is big difference between a God who sends part of himself born into the physical world and call that part of himself his son verse multiple different persons who send each other around and subservient to the first person!?!) and what determines this issue of “anti-Christ”, not just the fact that a man named “Jesus” was the son of God even the mormons and almost every denomination without exception believe that!?! The issue is not just that a man named Jesus Christ (the savior) came in the flesh but to deny “who that man is, who the person of that man is, that came in the flesh” that is the crux of the issue and defining line of what it means to be anit-christ. Look back at 1John 2:18

To deny who is the person of the man Jesus is to deny who the person of the father is because they are the same person. If they were not the same person then a denial of one person would not be a denial of the other person automatically because by definition two different persons are not synonymous. The whole point to these passages is showing that the person of the son and the father are synonymous. The fact that you confess that a man named Jesus was the son of God does not acknowledge the person of the son and the person of the father. The son is the word of God to deny the word is to deny the father who sent that word. To deny the word of God (the son) is to deny the God (father) who sent that word. Even if you were still unsure that the father and the son were the same person, you would still be left with the unavoidable fact that if the father and the son are the same person, then to deny who is the person of the father is to deny who is the person of the son and to deny who is the person of the son is to deny who is the person of the father. Thus, as a Trinitarian there could be no expectation of salvation as an anti-Christ.

James 2:19. Thou believest that there is ONE GOD; thou doest well: THE DEVILS ALSO BELIEVE, and tremble.

First notice that James makes a point of stating a belief in ONE GOD as opposed to the pagan practices of that day of worshiping multiple different persons as one of multple different persons who are god... Trinitarins do not even have a claim to believing that there is one God, Calling your pantheon one God does not magically make the pantheon of god persons disappear or force reality to conform to your “confessions of faith”!?! Three different persons who are each god with different amounts of god knowledge power and authority does not fool anyone except the fools who will believe that the three are one and one is three and you have called on the name of the Lord because, well…..you confessed all of that, so it must be true. Now the words of Christ are spirit (Jn 6:63 …the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.) the words of Christ only describe and define God as “ONE” and as we shall see in chapter six a specific Greek word that ONLY refers to ONE person when speaking of individuals. It is outright willful blatant stupidity to attempt to claim that God is an individual of three different persons and the spirit that claims God is three different persons is NOT the spirit of Christ!

Pg 69..To have different persons (in the “God-head” et al) each with their own unique spirit or person from the other two persons and subservient to just one of those spirit-persons makes a hierarchy of god persons just like the Greek gods. The only difference is limiting the number of these god persons to three as opposed to any other number in the other pagan pantheon of gods. Simply, claiming “no it is not a pantheon of gods. We confess God is one nature/substance/being with three different persons (composing the god-head)”, simply moves the location of your pantheon from Mt Olympus up to heaven into God’s head (but the pantheon is still there, Further, having multiple persons in one head is a mental illness it is not “divine”) !?!

PG 97 …A tree is known by the fruit it bears. The fact that God said he is "one" and someone came along and contradicts that and states "God is three in one" should have given you a hint, harking back to Satan in The garden...God said you will die...Satan comes along and states no you will be more WISE......today .God said He is one; but Satan's children come along and say no three is more WISE and humble in the face of God’s grandeur only “a mystery” that can be understood “in faith”. God uses head and right arm to explain the distinctions between father and son.. However, the Trinitarian heretics say to the effect: "NO, that is just a figure of speech, or that is not what God really means. What God is really saying is that God is three different persons". Fools, hypocrites and blind guides, God said he was One and by your traditions and vain imaginations have taken the words of God and made them of no effect, refashioning God into your image! The worship of different persons who are each God with different degrees/amounts of god knowledge, god power and god authority that authorize and send each other around on different missions is the practice of polytheistic pagans who worship their gods, NOT Christians. Simply calling all of your different gods, “God” does not change the fact that you are worshiping multiple different god persons. Claiming that worship of three different persons is the worship of only one deity is not just a contradiction in scripture and terms but just as ridiculous as taking a ford pickup truck and replacing the hood (and all other emblems) ornament(s) with a Mercedes-Benz emblem on it then trying to pass it off as a Mercedes sedan!?!

PART 5

Mat 28:19. Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them IN THE NAME OF the FATHER, and of the SON, and of the HOLY GHOST:

Some look at this verse and “see” direct evidence of three different persons, which is quite bizarre since This passages specifically makes the point that Father son and holy spirit all have the same name by placing them side by side equating those with each other as the same person!.. The passage is NOT making a distinction of three different names we are to worship in, pay homage to, baptize into!?!

(A) Placing father, son and holy spirit in the same list with each other, it identifies that father son and Holy spirit have the SAME NAME! It does not say IN THE NAMES OF it states IN THE NAME singular not plural (compare: Gal 3:16) (Phil 2:9. Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given HIM A NAME WHICH IS ABOVE EVERY NAME:…………………….; Acts 4:12. Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is NONE OTHER NAME under heaven given among men, WHEREBY WE MUST BE SAVED.)………..There is ONLY ONE NAME that saves not three different names!!!

(B) John 5:43. I AM COME IN MY FATHER'S NAME,

The fact that three things are mentioned in a list is not a “proof” of three different things or persons. In fact, in writing and or public speaking there is a technical use called a tetracolon and also “rule of three” it was widely used by the Greeks and roman orators of whom it is said “perfected it” even today in modern language it is widely used and scriptures use the same basic construct. A good example of this can be seen here: in Revelation

Rev 1:2 Who bare record of (1) THE WORD of God, and of

(2) THE TESTIMONY of Jesus Christ, and of

(3) all THINGS THAT HE SAW. (Rev 19:9..These are the true sayings of God. .10…for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.)

Also applies to 2Cor 13:14. The grace

(1) OF THE LORD JESUS CHRIST, and the love

(2) OF GOD, and the communion of

(3) THE HOLY GHOST, be with you all. Amen. …Note the use of “GOD” here rather then father….it matters not if you try to assume that father is under discussion here because the fact is there is ONLY ONE GOD PERIOD and in this verse Jesus, God and Holy Ghost are all God and all the same God.

All three of these things are the same thing/ message addressed from three different perspectives (or portions/parts) or ways of saying the same thing; It is NOT three different messages or testimonies or “Words of God” !?!

(C) Prov 30:4. Who hath ascended up into heaven, or descended? who hath gathered the wind in his fists? …… what is his name, and WHAT IS HIS SON'S NAME, if thou canst tell?

LEARN & “KNOW” WHAT “THE NAME OF THE LORD” THAT YOUR ARE BAPTISED INTO AND OR YOUR “FAITH ONLY” IS IN!?!

Ps 138:2. …. and praise THY NAME ……. for thou hast magnified THY WORD ABOVE ALL THY NAME

Rev 19:13. .. and HIS NAME IS called THE WORD OF GOD……………………………

SO:

- If God placed His "THE WORD" ABOVE all of God's various NAMEs

- and Jesus NAME (who is God in the flesh) IS called "THE WORD"

Then it must follow that the MOST important name we should KNOW and CALL UPON is "THE WORD"; . Not the letters that spell the word but the sayings/ doctrine/commands….

Isaiah 52:1. .. 6. Therefore MY PEOPLE SHALL KNOW MY NAME: ......................What NAME do you "KNOW".?.....

1Jn 2:3. And HEREBY WE DO KNOW that we KNOW HIM, if we KEEP HIS COMMANDMENTS./ Titus 1: 16. They profess that THEY KNOW God; but IN WORKS THEY DENY him…….

Rev 3:8….. kept MY WORD, and hast not DENIED MY NAME;

Jn 17:6. I have MANIFESTED THY NAME .... and they have KEPT THY WORD.

ERGO: In the name of the father son and Holy Spirit does not denote three different names or three different persons but three ways/modes of the same person and name of God

1John 5:13. These things have I written unto you that BELIEVE ON THE NAME of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may BELIEVE ON THE NAME of the Son of God.

1Jn 3:23. And THIS IS HIS COMMANDMENT, That we should BELIEVE ON THE NAME of his Son

Jn 20:31. But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life THROUGH HIS NAME.

1Jn 3:23. And THIS IS HIS COMMANDMENT, That we should BELIEVE ON THE NAME of his Son

For further explanations see Ch 1 “in the name of the father” and Ch 7 “in the name of the father part 2”

………….. This is will also explain what THESE mean:

Jn 14:13. And WHATSOEVER……. ye shall ask ……..IN MY NAME,…….

Acts 2: 21. And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall CALL ON…….. THE NAME OF the Lord ……………………..shall be saved……38…baptized every one of you …………IN THE NAME OF Jesus Christ

Even Most preachers do not really understand the most fundamental issue in answering the arguments which are ALL centered and is rooted in a perfect understanding of "THE NAME OF THE LORD"

…THE WORD is the NAME that whosoever calls upon it will be saved!! Acts 2:12 means EXACTLY WHAT IT SAYS the problem is people do not understand what THE NAME of the Lord is............ ( other considerations: PS 83:16&19 the name is Jehovah but Jehovah is not the name!?! Jehovah means self existent eternal one it is as much an adjective that describes what God's as it is used as a proper noun [i.e. “my name is wonderful” but wonderful is not my name])…….

Jn 14:13. And whatsoever ye shall ask …………IN MY NAME, ……….that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son. 14. If ye shall ask any thing ……..IN MY NAME,…………. I will do it. 15. If ye love me, keep my commandments.

If you do not understand that the name of the lord is THE WORD of God (not the letters that spell “the word” or “The bible” but in the message. Doctrine, sayings(Jn 8:61; 14:24;15:20; Rev 19:9 et al), commands of that Word made flesh(Jn 1:14) ………Then you probably have no clue what God much less what Gospel you are preaching!!!

……….Soooooooooo WHAT "NAME" did you "CALL UPON" and Confess and or are now denying ?!?

………………………………Ps 53:4

(D) WHO IS THE HOLY SPIRIT? Pgs 72-81

John 14:9. Jesus saith unto him, HAVE I BEEN SO LONG TIME WITH YOU, AND YET HAST THOU NOT KNOWN ME, Philip? HE THAT HATH SEEN ME HATH SEEN THE FATHER; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father?......The "oneness" between Christ and the father is not comparable to a man and his wife, for only a fool would say "When you have seen me you have seen my wife, how sayest thou then, Shew us your wife?"

.................. 10. Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me?.... 13 And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, THAT WILL I DO, THAT THE FATHER MAY BE GLORIFIED in the Son. 14. If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I WILL DO IT. …………..

NOW WE GET TO THE HOLY SPIRIT:

…………..17. Even THE SPIRIT OF TRUTH; (Jn 14:6 I AM the way, THE TRUTH,) whom the world cannot receive, .. for HE DEWLLETH WITH YOU, (present tense/standing next to them in the flesh) and SHALL BE IN YOU... (future tense “In them”) 18. I will not leave you comfortless: I WILL COME TO YOU (future tense “In them”) Note: The spirit of Christ is the sprit of God and the holy spirit that is why Christ said “I will come to you” (to comfort them, because Christ is the comforter). The spirit was standing next to them in flesh... ....latter it would come to them to be inside of them (inside of their flesh as the spirit we are given).....that is why. he would send the spirit...... However, Jesus himself here makes the point that the same person who was the HOLY SPIRIT that would come was standing next to them but lets them know “I will come to you again to be Inside of you” The present condition was external to them but in the flesh dwelling with them but, the future condition would be internal to them .. Rom 8:9 When you “see” or “pray” to the father (in the name of the father covered further in Ch 7) you are “seeing” and praying to Jesus and visa versa and Jesus will be the one to “come” and answer because father and son are just different parts/manifestations of the same person!?

Eph 4:4. There is one body, and ONE SPIRIT, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling; 5. ONE LORD, ONE FAITH, ONE BAPTISM, 6. ONE GOD AND FATHER of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.

2Peter 1:21. For THE PROPHECY CAME not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as THEY WERE MOVED BY THE HOLY GHOST.

Col 1:27. … THIS MYSTERY among the Gentiles; WHICH IS CHRIST IN YOU, the hope of glory: ….

Rom 8:9.....if so be that THE SPIRIT OF GOD DEWELL IN YOU. Now if any man have not THE SPIRIT OF CHRIST, he is none of his.........

John 6:63. It is THE SPIRIT that quickeneth; … THE WORDS … they ARE SPIRIT, and they are life…

Rom 8:9. … THE SPIRIT dwell IN YOU. Now if any man have not THE SPIRIT OF CHRIST, he is none of his.

There is only ONE SPIRIT not one spirit for Christ the man another spirit for the Father person (who is a spirit) and a third spirit called the Holy Spirit!?!?!....1Cor 12:13....There is no such thing as three different spirits who are also the same ONE SPIRIT ...

PART 7 AT THE RIGHT HAND

(1) When we say God sent his right arm into human flesh this kind of image (this here is the left arm) or the kind of idea that some have conjured up for others to scoff and mock...however, God is a omnipresent spirit so God did not need to detach any part of himself he just simply used that part of his omnipresent self and put it in/ attached it to the flesh that would be born male (son) human flesh without ever being separated or detached from that part of himself......God did not detach anything...GOD can be anywhere and everywhere at the same time as such any part of God can be anywhere he so chooses to "place it" so a better conceptualization is the other diagrams .........and NO the devil is not God's left arm nor is he even a part of God, the devil is NOT God..( he is a created being)

Pg 143............... .But wait someone would say, I would never consider my right arm to be my son so why would God consider his right arm to be his son?..God is a omnipresent spirit that “lives” primarily in heaven (as a spirit in the spiritual) God calls that part of himself that he considers to be his right arm His son because of the physical birth of male (son) human flesh that was born into the physical world as a “son of man” (that was in fact God himself) and as such belongs to God. His own right arm came into the physical world via a natural physical birth into human male (son) flesh!!.Was it Mary’s son or God’s son? It is simply a matter of perspective. The male child was born of a virgin but the male human flesh was animated or only had life via that part of God considered to be his own right arm and as such that male human flesh was literally the human flesh of God since it was A SON and God had no other human flesh (or son) it was literally the ONLY or unique birthed BEGOTTEN SON (male human flesh) OF GOD (belonging to / the possession "of God") Jesus is a son because of the circumstance .NOT because some other different god person who was not a powerful and knowledgeable as the father God person! .....Except you believe it you will die in your sins..

(2) I am a father and a son..I am only one person Likewise God is father and son and is only one person…The difference is I am a human I cannot be my own son or my own father ….WHY?

The circumstance of God’s person is different then the circumstance of my person

My person exist and is limited it had a beginning an origin/genesis…….God’s person is eternal self existent and does NOT require a beginning or origin to exist …that is why he can claim the beginning and the end….I cannot not…a father is the beginning the son is the end of that cycle as a created being with a beginning or origin I cannot be my own beginning as such cannot complete my own origins.

The only reason I cannot be my own father is that as a father I had a beginning so I had to FIRST BE A SON BEFORE I BEGAME A FATHER…….BUT GOD DID NOT HAVE TO BE A SON BEFORE HE BECAME A FATHER…I cannot be my own father because of my finite circumstance (I had a beginning, as a created human) not because a number of persons defines what a father is or who can be a father or son. The Human flesh of Jesus had a beginning and was created but the person and spirit of that man Jesus was God and had always existed before the son of man came to be. WHAT MAKES AND DEFINES WHAT IT IS TO BE A FATHER AND A SON IS NOT A CERTAIN NUMBER OF DIFFERENT PERSONS BUT RATHER AND SIMPLY CIRCUMSTANCE. The son of God was born and thus became the son of god when and only when that part of Gods eternal self was born into the physical world into male human (ergo “son”) flesh was born….It was God and that male human flesh (ergo son) was the sole possession of God as such it was “OF GOD” ( belonging to God)…not a different person.

God had NO SON before Christ was born........ it makes this point clear in the OT as well as in the NT period! ..But YES JESUS HAD ALWAYS EXISTED!?!

OT…..Ecclesiastes 4:8. There is ONE ALONE, and there is NOT A SECOND; yea, HE HATH NEITHER CHILD (BEN/SON) nor brother: yet is there no end of all his labour; neither is his eye satisfied with riches; neither saith he, For whom do I labour, and bereave my soul of good? This is also vanity, yea, it is a sore travail.....................(Solomon here is mentioning in his discourse and making reference to GOD as comparison/ contrast to the vanity of men....Solomon here is NOT talking about himself nor is he talking about some or any old lonely man that happens to be out there.... i only mention this because i get the most ridiculous comments sometimes)......................

NT……Heb 1:5 Thou art my Son, THIS DAY (at a certain point & specific day)………. HAVE I BEGOTTEN THEE? And again, I WILL BE TO HIM A FATHER, AND HE SHALL BE TO ME A SON? 6. And again, WHEN HE BRINGETH IN The first begotten into the world ............ ?

John 17: 4-5 does not help the trinitarians because as demonstrated JESUS has ALWAYS Existed but NOT always as a son and John 17: 4-5 does not say that Jesus was a son before the world began it ONLY speaks to the fact that Jesus who is the son was in existence with the father before the foundation of the world....Again trinitarian faulty exegesis. They like to ignore the plain scriptures in favor of oblique references and interpret them in a way that directly contradicts clear passages and even though John 17:4-5 is still just as true just as describe here as the right arm of God that would latter come and be born into male (son) human flesh .....The male child was born of a virgin but the male human flesh was animated or only had life via that part of God considered to be his own right arm and as such that male human flesh was literally the human flesh of God since it was A SON and God had no other human flesh (or son) it was literally the ONLY or unique birthed BEGOTTON SON (male human flesh) OF GOD (belonging to / the possession "of God") Jesus is a son because what was physical born was male human flesh and a son that was the possession of God because it was God in that male (son) human flesh .NOT because some other different god person who was not a powerful and knowledgeable as the father God person! .....Except you believe it you will die in your sins..

There is alot of perspective that folks seem to gloss over and do not consider. Of course Jesus has always existed because Jesus is nothing but that part of the spirit of God considered his right hand that God would send and put into flesh via a physical birth…However, from another perspective it is just as equally true that, Jesus the man ( “son of man”/ “son of God”) did not exist before he was born into the flesh (ergo Ps 2:7…this day have I begotten thee; Lk 1:35. )….because before he was born into the flesh he was just God specifically the right arm of God that was promised to come latter. That part of God that God would send into flesh has always existed but that part of God has not always existed in flesh or as a man!?!.....Thus when folks argue over or point fingers on whether or not Jesus existed before he was born into the physical world has everything to do with perspective. No man (or “son of man”) existed for all of eternity prior to the time before God(Jesus) created Man….There was only God (Jesus) who created man and all things…This brings us to another important point and concept to understand. Man is a spirit animating flesh. When God put himself (that part of his eternally existent self) into flesh via a physical birth then God literally became a man and a son. That son of man did not exist prior to the point that man was born. However, that part of the spirit of God that was born into that flesh had always existed because it is God in the same way that if I put my right hand into a leather glove (of human flesh) that part of me that is put into that leather glove existed before during and after it leaves that leather glove of flesh. Never the less, the man did not exist until the male human flesh (son) Jesus was born. The God which is the spirit because God is a spirit and Jesus is God had always existed before he was born into the world but he did not exist as a man (or “son of man”) prior to the time that he himself as God created man/ “son of man”!?! Before the son came into the world he was only considered to be the right hand of God, that would come and when it did he would be called the only begotten son of God, for the very reason that while many have been called "sons of God" Jesus was the ONLY BEGOTTEN son God had via a human women!?!?

NO God did not create a right arm at any point in time...that eternal part of God that God himself considers to be his right arm that has ALWAYS existed came to be born into human male flesh and at that point because of the birth and male human flesh became THE SON OF GOD....by virtue of circumstance NOT by virtue of being newly created..!?!? Jesus as THE SON had a point in time in which he BEGAN to be a son.......but Jesus had always existed because the man Jesus is that part of God that God considers to be his own right arm that God would send via a physical natural birth into human male (son) flesh!?!

and While some have tried to point to John " Who is a liar but he who denies that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist who denies the Father and the Son. Whoever denies the Son does not have the Father either; he who acknowledges the Son has the Father also.”..they dont seem to realize this is speaking of all those groups who claim that Jesus was a different person then the father Trinitarians/ JW islam et al....why?.. because while some deny the divinity of Christ other make Christ a different divinity and deny it. You see both sets of groups make the same error they point to arguments and say Jesus was a different person then his father.....thus even Jw and Islam claims Jesus was the Jewish messiah/Christ who was to come in the flesh) they like the trinitarians all deny WHO it was (or what person) that came (to be the Christ) in the flesh!?!...."WHO" it was (what person) that came "IN THE FLESH", IS THE DETERMINING FACTOR IN WHAT IT MEANS TO BE “ANT-CHRIST”! To deny the father is to deny the son because they are one and the same person that came in the flesh!......one denies divinity the other creates a pantheon....both are damned....

In fact the holy spirit is the same right arm as well…..go back and look at part 3 and NOTE that what is revealed is the right arm ……

(D) WHO IS THE HOLY SPIRIT? Pgs 72-81

NOW WE GET TO THE HOLY SPIRIT:

2Peter 1:21. For THE PROPHECY CAME not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as THEY WERE MOVED BY THE HOLY GHOST.

Col 1:27. … THIS MYSTERY among the Gentiles; WHICH IS CHRIST IN YOU, the hope of glory: ….

Rom 8:9.....if so be that THE SPIRIT OF GOD DEWELL IN YOU. Now if any man have not THE SPIRIT OF CHRIST, he is none of his.........

John 6:63. It is THE SPIRIT that quickeneth; … THE WORDS … they ARE SPIRIT, and they are life…

Rom 8:9. … THE SPIRIT dwell IN YOU. Now if any man have not THE SPIRIT OF CHRIST, he is none of his.

er and authority that send each other around) but they cannot, will not accept and would fiercely deny and claim that it is impossible for one God with one person, could just have three different modes bodies (physical/spiritual He occupies) of all the same person!?! You see God is only as Great and incomprehensible in the way and for they reasons that they say God is past (your) “feeble” human understanding, but they in their “humility”, accept that fact; and “be damned” what anyone or any scriptures have to say otherwise about it.

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